This interview features Catherine Austin Fitts, a former Wall Street investment banker and Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development, discussing her perspectives on the global financial architecture, the concept of a "digital control grid," and systemic financial corruption.
Key Topics Discussed:
- The Financial "Tapeworm": Fitts argues that the US government has engaged in a systematic looting of public finances, citing $50 trillion+ in undocumented adjustments and bailouts between 1998 and recent years (0:00 - 0:59).
- The Global Power Structure: She introduces the concept of "Mr. Global," a network of private financial interests that she contends operates above elected governments to coordinate a new, centralized digital governance and control system (15:03 - 18:54).
- Geopolitics and Resource Wars: Fitts suggests that recent geopolitical conflicts (such as in the Middle East) are part of a strategy to bring non-integrated nations into the Western central banking fold and secure control over resources (3:07 - 5:58).
- The Digital Control Grid: A major focus of the conversation is the acceleration of digital payment infrastructure and Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs), which Fitts warns will grant authorities unprecedented surveillance and control over individual financial assets and choices (36:04 - 37:04).
- Strategies for Individual Resilience: To resist this trend, Fitts recommends:
- Using cash and supporting analog infrastructure (38:37 - 39:05).
- Educating others to bring transparency to these issues (39:44 - 41:30).
- Local political action, such as supporting legislation that prevents digital ID mandates for government services (41:35 - 42:35).
- Divesting from institutions that finance the construction of the "control grid" (42:52 - 43:20).
Fitts concludes with the message that the "game is afoot" and encourages viewers to actively organize and engage to protect their financial and personal freedom (44:24 - 45:00).
Transcript
Hey everyone, it's Derek Bros with the Conscious Resistance Network and I'm at Confluence in Central Texas here with the amazing Katherine Austin Fitz. I'm so glad to be here.
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We're finally meeting in person, which has been all these years. I feel like I know you.11 seconds
Well, yeah. So, those who know like Katherine and I have done a lot of interviews. She's a part of the Independent Media Alliance, which myself and Whitney Webb and Ryan Christian18 seconds
helped form a couple years ago. Um, and you're at the Salari Report doing all kinds of great work. I'm sure everybody here knows who you are. Um,25 seconds
yeah, but I look for since I first saw you speak. You don't remember? In 2017. Was it in Nexus? Yeah. Yeah. So, that's where we met.34 seconds
Yeah. Oh, you're right. You're right. I bought a book, right?37 seconds
That Dang, it's been so I was just a customer.40 seconds
No, I knew you were, but it's been This is what I want to tell you is that actually the first time I became aware of you was very early in my journey. I mean, I I have my own story, but it48 seconds
wasn't until 2008 2009 that I really started to, you know, question things on a deeper level. Prior to that, I was 1855 seconds
years old during Iraq War 2003. I voted one time in my life and it was for John Kerry because I thought, well, if this guy's the bad guy, then the other guy1 minute, 2 seconds
must be the good guy. You know, I was still at that level of thinking.1 minute, 6 seconds
But years later, after going through some more struggles, I started to question the political system in general. Found Ron Paul, found a lot of those early things, and I found From Freedom to Fascism, I think in 2009.1 minute, 16 seconds
And you're in that documentary among other people. I wanted to get your perspective as somebody who has been around for several decades doing doing1 minute, 24 seconds
this important work both within the government and without um how you feel like the the broader movement using that1 minute, 31 seconds
term loosely freedom truth consciousness movement whatever you want to say uh homesteading you know there's a lot of overlaps here1 minute, 38 seconds
has grown or you know there there in my perspective of my short time round it does seem like there's more people asking questions than ever so there's a lot more people asking1 minute, 46 seconds
questions and you know people who are people who get things done and that's great. Um the other thing is that uh1 minute, 53 seconds
more and more people are understanding the power of what I do.1 minute, 58 seconds
In other words, how I live my life, the choices I make because we're either supporting the channel that's poisoning and killing us2 minutes, 6 seconds
or we're building our own channel. And that's what I love about your work.2 minutes, 10 seconds
You're like, let's bushwack the future here. You know, we have to move and build our own channel. So I see the more people who are taking2 minutes, 18 seconds
those kinds of actions, it's great.2 minutes, 20 seconds
Yeah. And I I mean I would also credit Solar Report for a big part of that because you you do such a diversity of work whether it's writing opeds,2 minutes, 28 seconds
writing, you know, doing interviews and then of course you guys have different reports you release that on detailed topics that are [music] I know very valuable and helpful for a lot of2 minutes, 36 seconds
people. Have you seen just more personal with salari has solar grown in terms of your listenership viewership with that2 minutes, 43 seconds
overall growth? So here's here's what our growth is. So we've grown steadily, but every time there's a presidential2 minutes, 50 seconds
election, we tell people a lot of things they don't want to hear, and we drop by a third. I understand that.2 minutes, 57 seconds
So in 2024, uh I was adamant, you know, about uh holding Trump accountable for mass atrocity and a few other things.3 minutes, 6 seconds
And uh and then also I said Gaza was a holocaust. And you know, those two things.3 minutes, 10 seconds
You took a lot of flack for that. We dropped a third and I had to, you know, seriously subsidize the company for until we got back out.3 minutes, 19 seconds
So, let's talk about that for a moment.3 minutes, 20 seconds
Is that a pattern? You've described it, you know, in terms of the Trump, but has it been going back through every administration? Have you seen it? Do you feel like it's any like any like in my3 minutes, 29 seconds
view, it seems like the Trump cult for lack of better term. And I mean that in the sense of not just somebody who likes me, but the people who truly3 minutes, 37 seconds
like anything you say about Trump, it's going to go in one. Same thing with Joe Biden. Right. Right. But it's it's the uni party cult.3 minutes, 44 seconds
Do you think that's that has gotten stronger over the years? Like not particular to Trump, but just I think what's happened is that in my lifetime, you've added neural warfare.3 minutes, 54 seconds
You've added subliminal programming.3 minutes, 55 seconds
You've added entrainment technology. So you have ways of brainwashing people through the smartphones or the TV, which is much more powerful. And you have a4 minutes, 4 seconds
portion of the population who's not that susceptible and you have a a portion that is. So the portion that is are you know they're4 minutes, 12 seconds
very much in a trance and and but the other people are getting smarter and smarter.4 minutes, 16 seconds
It's it it always reminds me of that line from the Matrix about you know there's a scene where Neo's they haven't walking through the simulation the lady in the red dress and he says something4 minutes, 25 seconds
like all these people here in the Matrix are so enamored and uh you know dependent on the system that they will fight you to resist it. Like so the4 minutes, 33 seconds
person coming in shouting hey the system's fake is going to be shouted down. And as you mentioned, I saw you out there in the trenches, myself, Whitney Webb, a lot of our allies,4 minutes, 41 seconds
particularly the independent media lines around the election. We were blackpilled. We were doomers. We were all these things because we were willing to call Trump to account. And I know4 minutes, 50 seconds
that's something you continue to do. How how important do you think that is right now? Again, not specific to Donald Trump, but to speaking the truth and4 minutes, 58 seconds
calling it out, no matter how uncomfortable it is, how unpopular [snorts] it is?5 minutes, 1 second
Here's successful change comes when we each support the channel that leads to civilization and withdraw support from the channel that leads to tyranny.5 minutes, 12 seconds
Yeah.5 minutes, 12 seconds
And and that means to do that uh a person or a family or community need to understand where the real power lines are.5 minutes, 22 seconds
So you can spend all the time you want voting on a presidential election or tracking a presidential election and it's not going to switch the power5 minutes, 29 seconds
lines. And so it's really really important for me that people see the power lines and see where they can get the power to5 minutes, 38 seconds
improve their own lives in a way that improves lives for everybody. Absolutely.5 minutes, 41 seconds
Because that's where we win. So you know from Wall Street it's all about winning. Yeah.5 minutes, 47 seconds
So I like to win and going around in a dead end loop. So So I'll give you an example. America has 3100 counties. If5 minutes, 55 seconds
you want to really switch political power, you switch those 3,100 counties on a county level at a county level and you suddenly are6 minutes, 2 seconds
going to get control of the money of all sorts of power. And what's interesting is while they have us entertained in the presidential theater, they're grabbing6 minutes, 11 seconds
the power one county at a time. And that's why, you know, one of the things I try and do is show people the power line at the state and local level6 minutes, 19 seconds
because they can they can accumulate and affect so much more power and change there.6 minutes, 25 seconds
Absolutely. I agree. I mean, and that and you this is evidenced by the fact that just as one example, the FCC is currently trying to rush through6 minutes, 32 seconds
legislation and federal register rules to take away even more local power about where is does one of our financial rebellions6 minutes, 40 seconds
every month with us. She was the mayor of Nevada City and she's been fighting that thing like crazy.6 minutes, 45 seconds
And that's and that's an example of if there's more effort and I see this in Houston where I'm originally from where you have just again with the 5G example people6 minutes, 53 seconds
placing towers 200 ft from a church from a school and the way that decision gets made is some arbitrary board that most people have never heard of called the7 minutes, 1 second
Houston Tower Commission which is made up of three people that only meet [music] every 3 months and and two of them are former lawyers for Verizon. But it's that board that decides yes or no if that tower goes up.7 minutes, 11 seconds
Right. But that's why one of the thing we're just about to publish um a new wrap-up called Mr. Global in your street7 minutes, 18 seconds
and it's about how business people can get together and back Mr. Global out of their street and um we talk a lot about7 minutes, 26 seconds
how they've done that how they've overridden local decisions and how you what you can do to get the power back.7 minutes, 32 seconds
One of the things we suggest, you know, in in America many many years ago, you always had a local paper who was going to all the board meetings covering it7 minutes, 41 seconds
and then warning everybody about what was going on. Once they bought up and shut down all those local papers, local media.7 minutes, 47 seconds
So, one of the things that we suggest in Mr. Global in your street is everybody crowdfund a few bucks a month, pull it,7 minutes, 54 seconds
and then pay somebody to go cover all those things and send out a broadcast. Absolutely.8 minutes, 17 seconds
because again that's how the UN agenda 2030 policies passed at the schoolboard level, the county level, the county commissioner.8 minutes, 24 seconds
So let me tell you some of the good news. Um you know for many many years I've been trying to uh pass legislation8 minutes, 31 seconds
to protect cash and stop programmable money for all these reasons. But one of the things that's happened because it it's an abstract idea and people have8 minutes, 40 seconds
struggled with that but now the local hardware you need to implement that system is going into place with both the data centers the8 minutes, 49 seconds
telecom that everyone's fighting but then the flock cameras and what has happened is there is a revolution across8 minutes, 56 seconds
America of people who are so furious to discover that they are paying their county to put up cameras that track their every movement with the flock.9 minutes, 7 seconds
These are the automatic license plate reader cameras. More and more people are learning about flock everywhere and there is huge push back. It's unbelievable.9 minutes, 14 seconds
And with the data centers like you said that seems to me like an issue that might actually have the rare chance to unite left and right. Right. Right. And and it's interesting.9 minutes, 23 seconds
So the people putting in data centers have a couple problems. One is people are beginning to understand that they're going to be used for control. They're9 minutes, 32 seconds
not going to be used to increase productivity. are going to be used to increase control. But the other thing they're realizing is if you look at the9 minutes, 39 seconds
projections of what energy they need and what um water they need and what their environmental impact is, what the noise9 minutes, 47 seconds
does to people who live around it, they're beginning to realize, oh, wait a minute, these people don't care about climate change. No, [laughter] they don't. They don't.9 minutes, 54 seconds
There was an article last uh I was just telling a guy who I met who' just gone to a data center conference. There was an article last year uh uh that Texas10 minutes, 4 seconds
for the projected data centers needed 50 new nuclear plants. Wow.10 minutes, 8 seconds
And he told me it takes 30 years to build a nuclear plant in Texas. So was you. So on that question, I want to switch gears in a moment, but do you10 minutes, 16 seconds
what there's this sort of ongoing debate both I would say in the alternative independent community, but especially in the mainstream whether or not AI itself10 minutes, 24 seconds
is a bubble is and in terms of like they're building all these data centers simply because they've got all this money invested in AI, but they haven't come up with the, you know, the the hit app for AI.10 minutes, 33 seconds
They've come up with the killer app. Well, what would you say it is? It's programmable money.10 minutes, 37 seconds
So CB and spatial control and uh stable coins and things of that sort. It's spatial control, but they're trying to load into your body. Oh, yeah.10 minutes, 45 seconds
Materials that will hook you up. So, the bioconvergence, right? So, you have an internet of bodies, you have an internet of, you10 minutes, 51 seconds
know, so so part of it to to do uh programmable money, you need a complete surveillance uh loop that will feed back. Yeah.11 minutes, 2 seconds
And and it needs to be integrated between the surveillance systems and the money. Yeah.11 minutes, 6 seconds
And um and that's what the data center is for. It's absolutely for control.11 minutes, 10 seconds
We're financing our own, you know, it's a prison. It's an open air prison.11 minutes, 14 seconds
And so what is your personal relationship if anything with a AI? Like do you use it for editing a paper? Do11 minutes, 23 seconds
you totally abstain? Are you making thumbnails with it? You know, this seems like there's a variations of use, right? So I'm in a prototype phase with11 minutes, 30 seconds
AI. I, you know, to me AI is a tool like anything else. And um the you know digital technology is building the11 minutes, 38 seconds
control grid and you know there are I I s I really love people who want to have a non-digital life. I think the more11 minutes, 46 seconds
people who have a non-digital life the better but I built my business around digital so I I need to do digital and to me an11 minutes, 54 seconds
ideal system would have an a very healthy analog and a very healthy it wouldn't be balanced anyway. So I've been we've been12 minutes, 2 seconds
prototyping with AI to understand it cuz to me the most important thing I need to do at Solar is understand it what its impact is.12 minutes, 10 seconds
Um and we've found several uses where it's very useful and very effective.12 minutes, 15 seconds
You know the challenge becomes the more they grow it and use it do we run the risk that the things that it's useful for now like we're contributing to it by using12 minutes, 24 seconds
Yeah. This is an AR that's kind of what I wanted to get at because so I'll just share my like I've used it in a couple of small ways. One example, when I was doing research for the Pyramid of Power,12 minutes, 32 seconds
I'm looking at documents, couple hundred years old, handwritten documents by George Washington, things that I could transcribe my own, but which would take hours. I could feed to this AI tool and12 minutes, 41 seconds
it transcribes it for me. It's not perfect. I still have to go in there with my human hand and eye.12 minutes, 45 seconds
But it saves me hours. Things like that to me feel innocuous, but there is an argument by some that even by using it in these simple ways, we're contributing to the overall.12 minutes, 53 seconds
So, it's it's interesting. I don't know. Do you know who Paul Emerson is?12 minutes, 58 seconds
I'm not sure I do. He wrote a book called it's a trilogy called from uh what is it from it's not Guadalajara from Gandhi shop or13 minutes, 6 seconds
to Silicon Valley okay and it's sort of what's good and bad about digital technology and why if we wanted human friendly machines we need13 minutes, 15 seconds
to change the fundamental paradigm it's very interesting I haven't finished it yet so um you know my number one13 minutes, 22 seconds
concern about all digital technology but particularly AI is I think that it can channel interdimensional intelligence. Okay.13 minutes, 30 seconds
So I think you can invite in the demonic and you can invite in the divine.13 minutes, 34 seconds
This is something you touched on briefly in the pyramid of power of the belief that there is something beyond the physical that is also behind some13 minutes, 42 seconds
intelligent. The whole universe is intelligent. Yeah.13 minutes, 45 seconds
Um we're just about to publish our piece on plasma.13 minutes, 48 seconds
99% of the universe is made up of plasma and plasma is alive and intelligent.13 minutes, 53 seconds
Right. So so the question is are you inviting in the divine? Are you inviting in the demonic? I think it's very important whenever you use any of these14 minutes, 2 seconds
tools that can channel, you know, all sorts of stuff, both human and interdimensional, you know, that you're cognizant of that and you use your ability to draw on the divine.14 minutes, 13 seconds
Yeah, I think that's that's beautiful.14 minutes, 14 seconds
One of my friends, he's you know, there's more and more people thinking, well, they have their artificial intelligence if you even calling it intelligence might be a might be taking14 minutes, 22 seconds
it too far, but we have our natural intelligence, [music] right? Sometimes people say there's the digital internet but there's also the internet of our spiritual connection you know the human14 minutes, 30 seconds
internet and all those staying connected to that is I think getting more and more important than ever.14 minutes, 34 seconds
So here's our challenge you know we're in a period where uh you know it's it's like getting hit by a wave14 minutes, 42 seconds
and you can't stop the wave you can't fight the wave. You can't control the wave. So you've got to dive into the wave. You got to ride it.14 minutes, 49 seconds
And you know I don't necessarily like that. if I had a choice to say no way I would do that.14 minutes, 54 seconds
But it doesn't seem like they we're not in a Hollywood movie where there's one magic computer to smash and everything's fixed and over. It's I used to have a friend who was a15 minutes, 2 seconds
Buddhist and he would constantly tell me the story. I'm trying to remember what it was called, but it was about how um15 minutes, 11 seconds
the the protagonist, the hero, basically, you know, mind melds and merges with the monster and transfigures15 minutes, 18 seconds
the monster that way. So, we're just going to have to dive in the wave and and convert it for our direction. It's got to be like judo.15 minutes, 27 seconds
I love that. Well, let me give you a couple more and I'll let you go. I know you got to get ready for your talk.15 minutes, 31 seconds
We've talked in the past about Rudolph Steiner and some of your interest in that which I was so grateful to know.15 minutes, 36 seconds
That's one of your interests among mine and that's always a fun topic. You know, Steiner was into his own form of Christianity. some that maybe people in15 minutes, 45 seconds
their modern world and megaurches might not recognize but a form of sort of Christian mysticism believe in Christ.15 minutes, 50 seconds
Part of reading Steiner is reading what he has to say about Jesus, about Golgtha and about Christianity.15 minutes, 56 seconds
I think there's so much there's so much beauty and and just magic there. And I wanted to ask you your perspective. You know, one of the things you took heat on16 minutes, 4 seconds
for standing up and I think doing the moral thing and continue to is what we saw in Gaza is what we saw under Trump and Biden. What continues on and this16 minutes, 12 seconds
has been a pretty big divisive area, you know, in every area, but there's there's Christian Zionists, for example, who are embracing this and supporting,16 minutes, 19 seconds
you know, nobody who supports something like this is Christian.16 minutes, 22 seconds
Yeah. So that I was going to say like how how is your feeling on that I mean do you think it's pe people who are just you know the flocks being led astray and being led to believe that that's somehow what God wants.16 minutes, 32 seconds
I I think there has been a significant effort to buy brainwash trick16 minutes, 40 seconds
uh you know to engineer a whole world of the Christian churches to support the Holocaust. And you know, I hate to say it, but if16 minutes, 49 seconds
you're going to do a real estate development, it's very profitable to get the churches to, you know, if you can get the churches to16 minutes, 56 seconds
support your stealing other people's lands. Sure.16 minutes, 59 seconds
You know, you can make a lot of money and claim that it's what God wants.17 minutes, 3 seconds
You know, it to me it's a it's a it's a very clever marketing strategy. And and the the17 minutes, 11 seconds
terrible thing is it's likely that we end up having a draft.17 minutes, 15 seconds
And now you're talking about um persuading people that they should send their children to die in the Middle17 minutes, 24 seconds
East so you can make a lot of money on real estate.17 minutes, 28 seconds
And it feels like it's never been so obvious. Like for just as one example, the the tariff situation, Lutnik, you know, getting himself in a prime position to make all profit off all17 minutes, 36 seconds
these the refunds of the terror, all these different things that seem to be just staring people in the face.17 minutes, 41 seconds
So, I'll give you some good news. Um, so are you aware of Foreign Affairs magazine? I am. Yeah.17 minutes, 46 seconds
Okay. So, Foreign Affairs is quarterly is published quarterly by the Council on Foreign Relations. Okay. And in the last17 minutes, 54 seconds
Foreign Affairs, there's a new one out now, but it I think it was the spring one. There are three articles about Trump which you know when you know they18 minutes, 2 seconds
finally the bankers who put him in have finally come to the recognition that it's you know enough is enough but there's one article called the age of kleptocracy18 minutes, 11 seconds
and it's basically describing Trump as I'll say this the worst grifter yet. I mean, it's pretty amazing because I worked with bushes. So, I've seen18 minutes, 18 seconds
there's been some big grifters, right? There have been some big grifters and um but the other thing there was one I think it's called the predatory18 minutes, 25 seconds
hgeimon where they say everybody's trying to understand Trump's foreign policy. But it's really simple. If you18 minutes, 32 seconds
just assume that the goal is to make as much money for himself and his friends, things start to make sense.18 minutes, 39 seconds
That's right. That's the policy. And it's and it's just so I think disgusting for a lot of people to kind of as you said there's been a lot of grifting in18 minutes, 47 seconds
the past but the past presidents especially particularly Obama were great at keeping that veneer of legitimacy on where Trump is sort of the mask ripped off you know I mean they've all been18 minutes, 55 seconds
they've all been but they they played the role of well I'm a constitutional attorney blah blah blah where Trump's just like mask fool off I'm enriching my friends I'm enriching my family. I like that about19 minutes, 4 seconds
I prefer that it's out in the open like but it's so blatant now that I think people are finally realizing that and realizing maybe this has always been going on. Yes, now the mask is off so we19 minutes, 12 seconds
can see the the truth in all its ugly glory.19 minutes, 14 seconds
Well, I think for most people the big one is the failure to prosecute anyone over Epstein.19 minutes, 19 seconds
Absolutely. Because if if you're going to protect hundreds of pedophiles19 minutes, 26 seconds
because they're your friends that I mean there's no law and there's I mean there's we could we could go on and there's there's a list of examples but I [music] think most of19 minutes, 34 seconds
the people hearing this will already be with us on the page that those who I think haven't seen who Trump is probably will Here's the question is what I'm going to be talking about tonight. What's the action?19 minutes, 43 seconds
Yeah. This is what I wanted us to get to. What do I do?19 minutes, 46 seconds
Because if enough people act there's a lot you can do. Sure.19 minutes, 50 seconds
But you know, the more people who act together, the better. [laughter] And that means you have to do more than just watch podcast and you have to actually get involved locally because,19 minutes, 58 seconds
you know, one thing that I've heard James Corbett call it conspirainment where for some folks, okay, they've tuned out of the mainstream, right?20 minutes, 4 seconds
They're not watching Hollywood or Netflix, but then your program and my program, James and Whitney, it just becomes, okay, the next channel, next channel, but they don't take those actions. They're just listening.20 minutes, 14 seconds
So, here's what's important. If you go to our website, I don't know if you've seen it. I'll mail you some if you want them. Uh but it's in PDF form. It's20 minutes, 21 seconds
free. Anybody can print it out. People hand out copies. It's called Coming Clean. Yeah.20 minutes, 26 seconds
And the idea is to, you know, and and it's a list of all the different actions you could take. I mean, it goes on and on for pages. And everybody should act20 minutes, 35 seconds
where it makes sense for them and they should start where it's good for them.20 minutes, 38 seconds
But the the idea is take some time out of your week, implement the action you're led to do in a way that makes you20 minutes, 46 seconds
stronger and weakens the people who are basically poisoning you or stealing your money. Exactly.20 minutes, 52 seconds
And and by by you know, we liken the whole system to a parasite. By detoxing the parasite out of your life, you make yourself stronger and your enemy weaker.21 minutes, 1 second
That's the beauty of it. And as you do it, you know, one thing at a time, you get stronger and stronger and stronger21 minutes, 8 seconds
and um and everybody can do it. And you want to take action because you you you need, you know, most people are exhausted by this whole,21 minutes, 17 seconds
you know, whole situation. So you want to you want to break it down into something that gives you energy and keep just, you know, just keep giving21 minutes, 26 seconds
yourself more and more energy. And the more you do it, the you know, it really works and you start seeing the fruits of your labor, too. And that's like more fuel to keep going. Yeah. And I I tend to call21 minutes, 34 seconds
it, you know, activated. That it's not enough to be awake anymore. We have to actually Okay, cool. So, you're awake.21 minutes, 39 seconds
You watch some documentaries. You watch some podcast. What are you doing about it now? Right.21 minutes, 42 seconds
It's time to actively work on the future of humanity. And and that's not going to happen just by building my family health and wealth.21 minutes, 51 seconds
I can make everybody healthy.21 minutes, 53 seconds
Absolutely. And it happens in big and small ways like and also it's important.21 minutes, 56 seconds
And one of the things I remind people to when I talk about exit and build, you know, exiting from these systems like we know that aren't going to lead to long-term liberty and privacy. Build new22 minutes, 4 seconds
ones, support those who are building new ones. It's a process. It doesn't happen overnight. So, don't get overwhelmed by well, you're here, but you'd like to be there.22 minutes, 11 seconds
Somebody was saying I I just have to tell you a couple stories cuz I have to tell you about the young builders. Um, you know, I I somebody was saying to me,22 minutes, 20 seconds
you know, it's so depressing because I have to deal with people in my life who are just, you know, they're mean and they're corrupt and and they said,22 minutes, 27 seconds
"Don't you feel that way?" I said, "No, everywhere I go, my life is full of wonderful people." And, you know, they're all picky eaters, so everything's always organic everywhere22 minutes, 35 seconds
in the world, wherever I go. And, you know, that's basically many years of coming clean. And so you end up only you22 minutes, 43 seconds
you end up in cahoots with the most fabulous people.22 minutes, 46 seconds
You're cultivating a network of people who are on that same vibration, same energy.22 minutes, 49 seconds
Exactly. It's just fabulous. So I I was in Wisconsin. We're having a meet and greet in Verqua. We're going to be back there again this year. And um and22 minutes, 58 seconds
somebody was talking about, you know, there's nobody like me where I live. And I was sitting next to a subscriber who's like one of our coolest subscribers in23 minutes, 6 seconds
the whole world. She's been coming clean for decades. She's amazing. Anyway, so I said to this first woman, she said, "There's no one around me like that.23 minutes, 14 seconds
There's no one that thinks like this." And I said, "Where do you live?" Turned out she move she lived a block away.23 minutes, 19 seconds
I've seen that happen, you know. So, we have to find our tribe, and you have to know your tribes there.23 minutes, 24 seconds
So, I was going to tell you, we started this program called the Young Builders. Have you heard about it? I have not. Okay. Tell us about it.23 minutes, 29 seconds
So, I kept I kept having our subscribers say, you know, you've got to help my kids and grandkids because these schools are these universities are terrible.23 minutes, 38 seconds
It's a lot of money. They you know what what they teach them is just crap. So we started a course called the young builders where we use our building23 minutes, 46 seconds
wealth curriculum to teach a group of young people who are 18 to 28 how how to use our curriculum to help themselves be23 minutes, 53 seconds
more successful more successful and healthy more successful in having families more successful in building businesses. Anyway, so we didn't know it's a prototype.24 minutes, 3 seconds
And we're almost through the first class and it's been a huge success. And one of the reasons is these are amazing. We24 minutes, 9 seconds
have 29 young people. They are just amazing. Now they've been very lucky.24 minutes, 15 seconds
Their families made sure they were healthy, got good food. A lot of them are homeschooled. Sure.24 minutes, 19 seconds
But they didn't know each other and they got isolated during the pandemic and they don't know kids like each other. And then wham, they find24 minutes, 27 seconds
each other and so we're going to do a new class starting in July. We're going to take new applications.24 minutes, 32 seconds
I will definitely put that in the the show notes. And I I if you're bringing ideas to my mind, I know some I mean even here, for example, at Confluence, they've got the kids tent and the teen tent.24 minutes, 41 seconds
So, what I've said to everybody from now on, that's what we're growing. We're just going to grow the young. That's the army. Yeah.24 minutes, 46 seconds
Right. So, we we our goal is to just help them succeed wildly. And if we're going to build a true multi-generational24 minutes, 55 seconds
awakening movement or whatever you want to call it, we have to do that because, you know, from your generation to mine to my nieces and the kids coming after us, right?25 minutes, 3 seconds
And it's the cool thing is, you know, there's workshops, there's talks going on. We're looking at some young kids right here, they're soaking it up. They're they're at events like this and other25 minutes, 10 seconds
experiences they're getting to kind of be around and experience that freedom to see that this can be cool. This can be fun. And there are other kids my my age with similar interest. It's a beautiful thing.25 minutes, 19 seconds
Yeah. Oh, well that's that's so that's so great. I'm glad you're working on initiative. Well, I really appreciate everything you do, Katherine. I know everybody does at home and that you know you're going to continue to focus on25 minutes, 28 seconds
solutions. I know that everybody when we started the IMA, the whole goal was that myself and Ryan and Whitney were looking around.25 minutes, 34 seconds
I made a beline to you when I saw you at Nexus because you were talking about solutions.25 minutes, 39 seconds
That's and that's to me and you had a book on solutions. I was like, "Okay, that's my guy." [laughter] I'm glad we we've stayed connected. And for us, the IMA was like, how can we25 minutes, 47 seconds
look around and who can we look around and see who hasn't lost their mind, you know, whether it's for the CO thing or Gaza, those were the three main issues25 minutes, 55 seconds
when Ryan and I, Whitney started talking about Gaza, Whitney, uh, the two party system and co, right?26 minutes, 1 second
And then obviously since then the thing, but it felt like to us that those three sort of starting points were people who stayed sane in that were definitely26 minutes, 9 seconds
people that we could see would be able to resist these narratives.26 minutes, 13 seconds
Yes. So you have to you have to hold really firm on these issues because um one of my favorite quotes is from Steve26 minutes, 21 seconds
Bartlett. He said if you don't face an uncomfortable truth, you're buying into an uncomfortable future. Yeah.26 minutes, 28 seconds
So you got to you got to face the truth upfront because that's you know that's going to be your economic pathway. But26 minutes, 35 seconds
we have serious impostor problems. So I've just had to hire a cyber security firm to help us.26 minutes, 40 seconds
I saw you talking about that. This this is probably it seems like in our independent media all lines discussions this might be a panel topic soon about how content creators and journalists are being impersonated.26 minutes, 49 seconds
We really have to help our audience understand how this game works and not let them get suckered and be able to discern that because26 minutes, 57 seconds
unfortunately there are ruthless scammers with no morals who will use your name. I have the same thing on Telegram. People impersonate me and message people and say, "Hey, are you27 minutes, 5 seconds
getting ready for the collapse? Invest in my crypto scam or whatever." And I've unfortunately heard of people being losing thousands of dollars believing they were talking to me.27 minutes, 13 seconds
They're stinging people and that's what we we do. We want to stop.27 minutes, 17 seconds
Well, thank you, Catherine, so much for your time and for making space for me and for all that you do. Everybody, the websites will be of course below and I look forward to fighting into the future.27 minutes, 25 seconds
So, just remember in the spirit of the young builders, my job is to lift up the next generation. So, you're always going to keep me posted on what I can do to27 minutes, 33 seconds
support you and I will keep passing that energy to the ones after me. Support him. He's fantastic. Thank you for everything, [laughter] K.27 minutes, 40 seconds
Appreciate you very, very much.27 minutes, 42 seconds
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