The transcript shows a segment where the discussion touches upon the Jeffrey Epstein case, specifically regarding the release of flight logs. During this exchange, Kash Patel responds to accusations that he prevented the release of names associated with Jeffrey Epstein's network by asserting that he had raised the issue regarding these records with the committee and on the floor (4:23:08 - 4:24:29).
During the hearing, it is noted that Kash Patel serves on the board of directors for the Trump Media and Technology Group, which owns the social media platform Truth Social. When asked by a committee member if he would resign from this position and sever all ties with the group if confirmed as FBI director, Patel replied, "Yes, Senator." (3:25:03 - 3:25:22)
This video from NewsNation examines a series of mysterious disappearances and deaths involving nearly a dozen scientists and government officials with high-level security clearances (5:50 - 5:58). These individuals were often linked to sensitive fields, including aerospace research, nuclear technology, and UAP (Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena) programs (5:14 - 5:19, 18:14 - 18:17).
Key Cases Mentioned:
- General William McCasland: A retired Air Force general who disappeared in New Mexico while allegedly going for a hike (10:19 - 10:23, 17:30 - 17:35).
- Steven Garcia: A government contractor at KCNS who went missing in New Mexico (0:28 - 0:34, 10:26 - 10:28).
- Monica Reza: A researcher who disappeared during a hike in Los Angeles; she had previously worked with General McCasland (10:57 - 11:03, 16:45 - 16:48).
- Melissa Cashes: A researcher from a lab in Los Alamos, New Mexico, who was found missing after allegedly leaving her personal belongings behind (10:37 - 10:49).
- Amy Esgridge: An expert in anti-gravity technology whose death was ruled a suicide, despite reports that she had expressed fear for her life (6:41 - 7:13).
Government and Congressional Response:
- The House Oversight Committee has launched a probe into these cases, requesting briefings from the Pentagon, FBI, Department of Energy, and NASA to determine if there is a sinister connection (12:18 - 12:26, 16:01 - 16:06).
- President Trump has acknowledged the gravity of these events, noting that he was briefed and expects to have more information on whether these incidents are connected within roughly a week and a half (5:30 - 5:46, 10:04 - 10:07).
- While some officials and experts suggest the cases could be coincidental, others, including former intelligence personnel and lawmakers, are calling for a thorough investigation to rule out foreign adversary involvement or targeted foul play (11:15 - 11:20, 14:27 - 14:31, 20:38 - 20:45).
Transcript
investigators gone that far to make connections. I'm joined by somebody who has been tracking every one of these stories, connecting the dots herself,
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asking the questions that others aren't.10 seconds
Los Angeles magazine contributor Lauren Conlin. Great to see you again. Not wearing an alien dress. Totally fine. Not tonight. Who is this guy? Garcia.18 seconds
Steven Garcia. Man, Jesse, this one is chilling to me because as you said, it echoes Neil McCassen's disappearance26 seconds
right down to the same thing. the state of New Mexico. So, Steven Garcia, I mean, he had a top security clearance at KCNS.35 seconds
Is that is that per a source though? A source said that.37 seconds
This is per a source. Um, yes, per a source that was close to Garcia. But look where he worked at KCNS. I mean,44 seconds
they manufacture 80% of non-uclear components that go into building military nuclear weapons. And uh I mean53 seconds
he oversaw tens of millions of dollars of assets, equipment, some classified,58 seconds
some not. I mean, we don't know what was going on in this guy's head, right? The officials had said that he may have been1 minute, 6 seconds
a danger to himself. He was seen carrying a gun. And it sounds crazy, but between Garcia and General McCasslin,1 minute, 13 seconds
[clears throat]1 minute, 14 seconds
I have to wonder, and again, I know this sounds crazy, but it could be an option here. I mean, is is the government doing1 minute, 21 seconds
this? Are are they taking out their own people because of XYZ? And wait, I want to point something else out to you, Jesse. I literally I'm I'm on a roll.1 minute, 29 seconds
I'm on a roll. But tomorrow, April 14th,1 minute, 32 seconds
that is when Rub Anna Luna gave Pete Hegset this deadline. She requested 46 UAP videos. And and look, there's a good1 minute, 42 seconds
reason behind it. I mean these videos she detailed in in this filing and and they say you know Iran XYZ date you know1 minute, 50 seconds
2022 Syria XYZ date shaped like a cigar you know this is this is a matter of of national security and and this is1 minute, 59 seconds
important because in real time we don't know what's in the sky we don't know if this is uh some kind of you know a UAP2 minutes, 9 seconds
we don't know if it's a drone we we just We we don't know enough.2 minutes, 13 seconds
Are you getting any official word from authorities, investigators that are maybe trying to link these 10 episodes?2 minutes, 19 seconds
Are they all disconnected? They're saying you can't make a connection because again, I mean, you think I laid it out very well. There are eer eerie similarities.2 minutes, 28 seconds
Of course there are. You're absolutely right. And I've, you know, I've reached out to Rep. Berles's office, Rep.2 minutes, 33 seconds
Burchett's office, and I did hear back from Berles's office last week. And look, they said, you know, they haven't heard directly from the White House and2 minutes, 40 seconds
and they haven't brought up General McCasslin's disappearance at all. They were being very uh safe with me. I want to say Rep. Burchett's office didn't2 minutes, 49 seconds
respond to me at all, but Burchett just said, I I forget what show he was on,2 minutes, 54 seconds
but he just said he talked to quote folks at the White House about this and that President Trump is about to do some disrupting. I just don't believe it.3 minutes, 2 seconds
Obama tried to release these UFO files.3 minutes, 5 seconds
Clinton tried to release them. Nothing happened. I get it. People think Trump is different, but but what's so different? I mean,3 minutes, 12 seconds
there has been a lot of questions about did they get any call? Did they get any messages cuz just to leave the house3 minutes, 20 seconds
allegedly armed um in such a strange way. I mean, even with McCasslin, there was alleged there's an allegation that he didn't want to be found and3 minutes, 29 seconds
anything about what they were up to in the days, weeks, hours before. So there there is nothing public and I mean I am3 minutes, 36 seconds
digging right now. I you know it's it's tough. You you want to reach out to family members, you want to reach out to friends but you want to do it um in you3 minutes, 44 seconds
know in a way that's not so invasive. I mean there these are their family members are missing. This is very serious. And you know I saw a Facebook post Steven Garcia's I think it was his3 minutes, 54 seconds
niece who was like has anyone seen my uncle just begging pleading. And so you you really have to think about um you know the the the protections for4 minutes, 3 seconds
whistleblowers as well. There there's so much that that needs to be said and and it's just it's it's terrible. You might not know the answer to this.4 minutes, 10 seconds
Did they know each other? Did any of these people know each other? Work together in the same ven diagram. I mentioned New Mexico together, but4 minutes, 17 seconds
right. Well, we discussed last week uh we discussed Monica Raza who worked alongside or underneath Neil McCasslin and they both were stationed at Wright4 minutes, 25 seconds
Patterson. So there is a connection there. You know, I I I haven't made connections between any of the others4 minutes, 34 seconds
just yet. I I do, you know, know that it it is interesting. Carl Gilmare, I've been looking into his death, the the Caltech astrophysicist.4 minutes, 43 seconds
I did notice um some neighbors in the area and he lives in a very remote area. They also worked in aerospace research,4 minutes, 50 seconds
which again I am [sighs]4 minutes, 52 seconds
I wish I had all day to focus on this story, Jesse. I really do. Um but but I'll get there. I will It's not going anywhere. It's not going5 minutes, 1 second
anywhere. It's being amplified again and again and again cuz this is so strange on so many different levels. I know you're going to stay on top of it. Uh5 minutes, 9 seconds
Lauren Conlin, great to see you. Thanks for giving us some insight. Thank you so much, Jesse. You got it.5 minutes, 14 seconds
missing scientists with access to classified stuff, nuclear material,5 minutes, 19 seconds
aerospace, they've all gone missing or turned up dead in the last couple months. Based on what you've been briefed, what do you think is happening5 minutes, 26 seconds
here? And do you think that this is connected or totally random?5 minutes, 30 seconds
Well, I hope it's random, but we're going to know in the next week and a half. I just left a meeting on that subject. So, pretty serious stuff, but5 minutes, 38 seconds
we're going to be not hopefully I don't know, coincidence of you, what whatever you want to call it. But some of them were very important people and we're going to look at it over the next.5 minutes, 50 seconds
Well, there is now an 11th scientist with connections to top secret government secrets uh who has died or gone missing within the last four years5 minutes, 58 seconds
under mysterious conditions. And conspiracy theories are ballooning online. President Trump even addressing the ongoing mystery yesterday,6 minutes, 7 seconds
confirming the US government is looking into it.6 minutes, 10 seconds
Well, I hope it's random, but we're going to know in the next week and a half. I just left the meeting on that subject. So, pretty serious stuff, but6 minutes, 18 seconds
we're going to be not hopefully I don't know, coincidence if you what whatever you want to call it, but some of them were very important people and we're going to look at it over the next.6 minutes, 30 seconds
National correspondent Nancy Lou is live in Los Angeles. So, Nancy, what do we know about this possible 11th case?6 minutes, 38 seconds
Well, Nicole, just before her death in 2022, Amy Esgridge had announced plans to present her groundbreaking work with6 minutes, 47 seconds
anti-gravity technology. The 34year-old had been openly experimenting in the field and founded a research company6 minutes, 56 seconds
called the Institute for Exotic Science to establish a more public space for developments in anti-gravity work. Her7 minutes, 5 seconds
death from a supposed self-inflicted gunshot wound has long been questioned since she had expressed that her life7 minutes, 13 seconds
was in danger at the time. Escridge worked closely with her father. And according to NASA, Richard Esgridge is a7 minutes, 21 seconds
retired engineer whose many projects included novel work on a system to propel a spacecraft with high-speed7 minutes, 30 seconds
plasmoids. Well, I spoke with him briefly today and he dismissed any link between the death of his daughter to the7 minutes, 38 seconds
10 other scientists who've mysteriously died or gone missing over the past few years. Uh, all had links to government7 minutes, 46 seconds
secrets and programs tied to military defense and UFOs. Richard Escridge. He did not want to be interviewed, but he7 minutes, 54 seconds
told me on the phone, "Scientists die also, just like other people." Nicole.8 minutes, 2 seconds
All right. So, Nancy, there are already questions uh before this newest one. We even have lawmakers weighing in. I mean,8 minutes, 9 seconds
what more can you tell us about maybe what happens next?8 minutes, 14 seconds
Yeah. Well, the uh mystery surrounding these scientists, it's definitely taken on a life of its own on the web where all kinds of conspiracy theories abound.8 minutes, 24 seconds
There's even talk of a murder conspiracy targeting people who supposedly know too much. Two of the scientist deaths are8 minutes, 33 seconds
cases of murder and a number of disappearances are people who weren't considered suicidal. In the case of8 minutes, 40 seconds
Monica Raza, the experienced hiker went missing during a hike last year here in Southern California. She had worked with8 minutes, 48 seconds
General William McCasland, a so-called UFO gatekeeper who also went missing8 minutes, 55 seconds
just two months ago. Now, we just got a statement from Republican Congressman Eric Berles, who's among those pushing9 minutes, 3 seconds
for answers. He tells NewsNation, "These are some of the most advanced scientists and researchers in our nation working on9 minutes, 12 seconds
critical national security efforts and several have mysteriously disappeared.9 minutes, 17 seconds
This is too coincidental and we have to be investigating this." With President Trump now acknowledging the mystery with9 minutes, 26 seconds
a vow of a top level review, there is new hope due to his comments about answers in the next week or two. Nicole.9 minutes, 34 seconds
All right, Nancy Lou live there in LA.9 minutes, 37 seconds
Nearly a dozen scientists and government officials with connections to top secret government secrets disappearing or dead under strange circumstances. The US9 minutes, 46 seconds
government now on the case. Just take a listen to President Trump. Well, I hope it's random, but we're going to know in the next week and a half. I just left a9 minutes, 55 seconds
meeting on that subject. So, pretty serious stuff, but we're going to be not hopefully I don't know, coincidence of you, what whatever you want to call it.10 minutes, 4 seconds
But some of them were very important people, and we're going to look at it over the next.10 minutes, 9 seconds
The group had all allegedly had access to sensitive information with some of the details of the cases eerily similar.10 minutes, 16 seconds
News Nation has been out in front of this story since the beginning. We have told you about retired General William McCassland who left his New Mexico home10 minutes, 23 seconds
with nothing but a gun, never to be seen again. And Steven Garcia, a government contractor who also disappeared in New10 minutes, 30 seconds
Mexico, also with a gun and no personal belongings. But other lesserk known cases are also catching our attention.10 minutes, 37 seconds
53-year-old Melissa Cashes worked at a research lab in Los Alamos, New Mexico.10 minutes, 42 seconds
She was last seen in June of 2025, three miles from her home walking along a highway. She left behind her purse, her10 minutes, 49 seconds
wallet, and her phone with the phone's history wiped. A month before that, 78-year-old Anthony Chavez went missing,10 minutes, 57 seconds
a former employee of the same lab where Melissa worked. There's also the case of Monica Reza, who disappeared in June of 2025 while hiking in Los Angeles with a11 minutes, 6 seconds
friend. Police say Reza was about 30 feet behind the person she was with,11 minutes, 10 seconds
smiling and waving, but when the person turned back, she was gone. So, is this a string of strange mishaps? a coincidence11 minutes, 18 seconds
or something much more sinister. We are joined by NewsNation National Security Contributor Tracy Walder, former CIA officer and FBI special agent. Tracy,11 minutes, 26 seconds
it's good to see you. Thank you for being here. Thank you for having me, Natasha.11 minutes, 30 seconds
We know the FBI is investigating. The president has been briefed. He says it's very serious stuff. Is anything standing out to you when you look at these cases?11 minutes, 38 seconds
I think the biggest thing, first of all,11 minutes, 39 seconds
is the proximity in which they all seem to disappear? The pro proximity and dates, excuse me. If you look at Monica Resza and Melissa Cashes, they11 minutes, 48 seconds
disappeared within three or four days of each other. The other ones within a month or so, um, give or take of them.11 minutes, 54 seconds
And so, I think that obviously gives me a little bit of pause. Also, you mentioned earlier the complete lack of12 minutes, 2 seconds
personal effects that they seem to have left their home with. Um, tell me that either there's two situations there.12 minutes, 8 seconds
They left not wanting to be found or they left under suspicious circumstances. All the scientists have worked for a wide range of organizations. Um, just hours ago,12 minutes, 18 seconds
NewsNation learned that the House Oversight Committee will start probing these cases. They're seeking information from the Pentagon, the FBI, the12 minutes, 25 seconds
Department of Energy, and NASA, saying that several of the scientists carried highlevel security clearances. Why would they be seeking information from these organizations?12 minutes, 35 seconds
My guess, and I'm very glad that they're investigating these to be honest, my guess is most of them worked for JPL as well as Los Alamos National Labs.12 minutes, 42 seconds
They're probably trying to understand what exact cases did these individuals work, what programs did they work, what did they have access to, what they12 minutes, 50 seconds
didn't they have access to because just to sort of inform everyone, just because you work at the same place does not mean12 minutes, 57 seconds
that you all have access to the same programs. [clears throat] And so, is this something that is being targeted of individuals working on a specific13 minutes, 6 seconds
program? Because if it is, that would help obviously narrow the focus of the investigation. or is this broader? And so that's my guess in terms of why they're probing those entities.13 minutes, 16 seconds
How big of a national security risk is this situation? And what kind of information could these scientists know that could be a risk here? I mean, we know for example, General McCassland,13 minutes, 25 seconds
his emails were previously hacked by the Russians.13 minutes, 28 seconds
Yes, of course that happened. And but I do want to make it clear, General McCaslin, listen, he retired in 2013 and even his wife, you know, had said the13 minutes, 36 seconds
access that he had would have been obviously very dated, if you will. It's not to say he wouldn't be a good target,13 minutes, 43 seconds
but certainly he wouldn't have access to current information and a lot changes um in, you know, the technology world and the national security world in what 12,13 minutes, 53 seconds
13 years. So I think that's something that probably needs to be taken into consideration as well. Do you believe that some of these scientists14 minutes, 1 second
disappeared willingly? Because when we look at, you know, General McCasslin,14 minutes, 4 seconds
Steven Garcia, Monica Reza, Melissa Cases, they all disappeared out of nowhere. Some of them with just a gun.14 minutes, 10 seconds
Melissa's phone was wiped. Uh, is that is that concerning or are we just looking at a string of potential suicides here?14 minutes, 18 seconds
Listen, it's hard to say, right? And that's why I'm very glad that they are conducting an investigation just simply because of where these individuals worked. We need to know if they are14 minutes, 27 seconds
being targeted by a foreign entity because clearly that is a national security issue and if you just look at how they disappeared, what they didn't14 minutes, 35 seconds
take with them and what things they were working with, it makes sense that we would conduct an investigation from a national security perspective. I do14 minutes, 42 seconds
think McCaslin's wife, I believe, has stated that he didn't want to be found.14 minutes, 46 seconds
So, some of that indicates to me that on his part, maybe some of this was was willing, but I I can't say for certain14 minutes, 54 seconds
on on the rest. You know, it's it's hard to say, but I'm very glad that they are conducting an investment.14 minutes, 59 seconds
Yes, certainly. And and if this were not coincidence and something more sinister in at least some of these cases, uh what are some things that your mind goes to15 minutes, 6 seconds
that we should be made aware of? Is this an issue with foreign adversaries?15 minutes, 11 seconds
It could be. Um, it could be an issue where foreign adversaries are targeting these individuals or again this is all alleged. This is just my hypothesis.15 minutes, 20 seconds
This could be an instance where individuals are turning themselves over to foreign adversaries to work for them.15 minutes, 26 seconds
Were they meeting with an asset from another country? Those are the two things that I think are very critical in this. Very interesting. Tracy Walder,15 minutes, 33 seconds
appreciate the insights and the time as always. Thank you.15 minutes, 37 seconds
The mystery deepens in a story News Nation has been out in front of since the beginning. Nearly a dozen scientists and government officials, take a look,15 minutes, 46 seconds
have disappeared or died under strange circumstances, all within the last four years. Many reportedly held highlevel15 minutes, 53 seconds
security clearances and had access to sensitive information. And now the House Oversight Committee is going to start probing the cases, seeking information16 minutes, 2 seconds
from the Pentagon, the FBI, the Department of Energy, and NASA.16 minutes, 7 seconds
President Trump even addressing the ongoing mystery, saying the White House is looking into it and vowing to get answers within days. National16 minutes, 15 seconds
correspondent Nancy Lou is live from the Anggels National Forest. Uh so Nancy,16 minutes, 20 seconds
what do we know about this House Committee probe?16 minutes, 24 seconds
Well, Nicole, those letters from the oversight committee named Monica Justinto Rezo and former Air Force General William Neil McCaslin.16 minutes, 33 seconds
Specifically, the two work together on a highly sensitive research program regarding space vehicles and defense16 minutes, 40 seconds
weapons. Today, we are in the hiking area of the Angeles National Forest where Reza mysteriously went missing16 minutes, 48 seconds
last summer. The 60-year-old experienced hiker was with two friends that Sunday here on the Mount Waterman Trail.16 minutes, 56 seconds
According to one friend, Reza was about 30 feet back, smiling and waving at one point, and when they turned around17 minutes, 4 seconds
again, she was gone. And despite multiple extensive searches by hikers and authorities, there's been no trace17 minutes, 11 seconds
of her. Reza created and patented a nickelbased alloy called Mandeloy which has helped the US eliminate reliance on17 minutes, 21 seconds
foreign sources for propulsion technology. News Nation among the first to report that REA worked closely with17 minutes, 29 seconds
Air Force General William Neil McCasland who also mysteriously disappeared in New Mexico two months ago. Authorities17 minutes, 38 seconds
believe he went on a hike behind his home, but his wife said it was unlike him not to tell her where he was going or to leave without his phone and keys.17 minutes, 48 seconds
Macaslin had managed classified information on UFOs and UAPs. Now, the letters from the oversight committee say17 minutes, 58 seconds
recent reports raised questions about a possible sinister connection between the deaths and disappearances of not only18 minutes, 6 seconds
Mathlin and Resa, but nearly a dozen scientists who've either died or vanished over the past few years. Most have links to sensitive military,18 minutes, 16 seconds
nuclear, and aerospace research. Now, in the case of Monica Reza, trails in this area where she vanished, they are deep18 minutes, 23 seconds
in the Angeles National Forest, but they are well marked. Though even very experienced hikers tell us much of the18 minutes, 31 seconds
Pacific crest is known for being challenging and treacherous. Resa's missing flyers are now posted at various points.18 minutes, 40 seconds
Yesterday, it caused our attention because we saw this sign, help us to find Monica. Because we're hikers, it touch us even more knowing the risks.18 minutes, 51 seconds
But unfortunately, it happens, you know,18 minutes, 55 seconds
and sometimes it happens that people were never found.19 minutes, 2 seconds
The oversight committee notes in their letter to Secretary of War Pete Haggsath just a week ago that they had asked the department about the growing mystery,19 minutes, 11 seconds
but the department responded by noting no active national security investigations of any current or former19 minutes, 18 seconds
staffers with DOW clearance. The oversight committee is now asking for a briefing on the disappearances and deaths no later than April 27th. Nicole.19 minutes, 30 seconds
All right, Nancy Lou with the very latest there. Thank you.19 minutes, 33 seconds
Joining us now, Jonathan Gilliam, former FBI special agent and former Navy Seal.19 minutes, 38 seconds
Welcome to you. Talk about the investigative tools these agencies will use to determine if any of these cases are in fact connected.19 minutes, 48 seconds
Well, I think first of all, the the uh the bureau or whoever investigates this because it may be multiple agencies that are looking into each one of these19 minutes, 56 seconds
separately because many of them work for different agencies. some of them were uh even contractors or uh did things20 minutes, 3 seconds
privately that were uh then brought into the government. So I think the first thing that they need to look at is were20 minutes, 11 seconds
they connected in any way, shape or form but besides the fact that they worked in similar areas? Um, were any of the20 minutes, 18 seconds
projects that they worked on connected or was the totality of what each scientist did connected to a certain20 minutes, 27 seconds
avenue uh that was being used for uh technology or government excuse me government [clears throat] services. So once they start looking at these things20 minutes, 36 seconds
then they also need to start looking at is there any uh contact with foreign services that had ever been reported. um20 minutes, 44 seconds
uh was there any problem employees at the locations where some or all of these people worked? And um the the the other20 minutes, 54 seconds
one that I heard and now bear with me because it's going to sound a little conspiratorial, but uh I heard one of the Congress members of Congress talking21 minutes, 2 seconds
about how several of these individuals had been called to testify in front of Congress. Now, that actually made me pause when I heard that. I'll stand in21 minutes, 10 seconds
another room and think is there anybody connected to Congress that may have identified these people and shared those21 minutes, 19 seconds
with foreign entities. All of these each of these approaches have to be looked at and people have to start uh21 minutes, 26 seconds
investigators have to start looking at if there is puzzles here that they can put together or if it's just coincidence21 minutes, 33 seconds
which could also be the case. Yeah, I mean I think anything's on the table at this point, but no doubt it is raising some eyebrows going all the way up to21 minutes, 41 seconds
the president. Uh Jonathan, President Trump was briefed on this. Here's what he said about the investigation.21 minutes, 49 seconds
I hope it's random, but we're going to know in the next week and a half. I just left the meeting on that subject. So yeah, pretty serious stuff, but we're going to be hopefully I don't know,21 minutes, 59 seconds
coincidence if you what whatever you want to call it. But some of them were very important people and we're going to look at it over the next.22 minutes, 8 seconds
Anytime it gets to the level of the president responding is going to put extra pressure. How soon do you think we22 minutes, 15 seconds
have some definitive answers from investigative agencies?22 minutes, 19 seconds
Well, I think what they're going to be able to do is first and foremost is rule out any individuals as something being suspicious. And I think that is going to22 minutes, 27 seconds
be probably the easiest thing to do because perhaps we don't know about some of these individuals that the general that you're showing right here just simply disappeared on a trail. Well,22 minutes, 36 seconds
there's another individual that also disappeared, a female that disappeared on a trail. So, those are ones that are going to be more difficult. But if you22 minutes, 44 seconds
have somebody who died of natural causes who uh I don't I wouldn't rule out suicide at this point until I definitively know that that person uh22 minutes, 53 seconds
took their own life. But I think they'll be able to rule some of these things out pretty quickly. But what is going to be interesting is that while they're23 minutes
investigating this, are there other people that may have passed or disappeared that were also connected in into this scientific community? I think23 minutes, 9 seconds
the biggest part of this right now though is that these individuals worked either specifically for or were23 minutes, 18 seconds
contracted to the government and uh were working in an area in science that is related. So that is the one particular23 minutes, 26 seconds
thing right now for me looking at this from investigator and the potential for a national security issue that is the thing that is the most alarming at this point.23 minutes, 35 seconds
Right. And you bring up the two individuals that I do think on the surface their cases are peculiar because of their connection. And that is the23 minutes, 42 seconds
general mass who vanished a month or so ago in New Mexico and his wife telling the 911 operator. I think he may have23 minutes, 50 seconds
intended not to be found. He didn't take his phone. And his connection, Jonathan,23 minutes, 55 seconds
with Monica Reza, who you see on the right of your screen, she also vanished the year prior in California on a hike.24 minutes, 3 seconds
the two of them, to our knowledge, did work together on some of these programs.24 minutes, 8 seconds
So, I' I'd certainly start there um in in trying to rule anything out or make a connection.24 minutes, 14 seconds
Marty, you know, one one other thing that's very interesting about this is that we're not hearing this from law enforcement primarily. These are people24 minutes, 22 seconds
on the internet that have gone and and searched and found a lot of this information. Thank you for watching.24 minutes, 28 seconds
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IN AI SEEKING A LOCATION TO BRING CONSTRUCTION, ON THE WORLD'S FIRST UTILITY SCALE FUSION POWER PLANTS SUBJECT TO25 seconds
REQUIRED APPROVALS, THE MOVE CREATES ONE OF THE FIRST PUBLICLY TRADED FUSION COMPENSATES TRUMP MEDIA33 seconds
TECHNOLOGY GROUP RISING LOOK TO AT STOCK UP 24% RIGHT NOW HAS BEEN UP BETTER THAN 30% WE43 seconds
NEWS BROKE THE CEO TRUMP MEDIA TECHNOLOGY GROUP DEVIN NUNES, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.48 seconds
>> GREAT TO BE WITH YOU THANK YOU. MARIA: CONGRATULATIONS ON BIG DEAL YOU'VE GOT TO EXPLAIN THIS TO ME I DON'T UNDERSTAND56 seconds
WHY A TECHNOLOGY COMPANY IS MERGING WITH NUCLEAR FUSION COMPANY.59 seconds
>> TECHNOLOGY IS ALL ABOUT ENERGY YOU TALKED ABOUT IT EVERY DAY ON YOUR SHOW IT IS A BIGGEST VULNERABILITY IN THIS1 minute, 7 seconds
COUNTRY, AS YOU KNOW TRUMPS WAS STARTED BECAUSE NOT BECAUSE PRESIDENT NEEDED A NEW COMPANY, BUT BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE BEING BANNED BY INTERNET1 minute, 16 seconds
WE BUILT TECHNOLOGY TO SOLVE THAT SAVE FREE SPEECH, NOW WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT WHAT IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE WITH THE HIGHEST LEVEL WHAT DO WE HAVE1 minute, 25 seconds
TO SOLVE FOR DATA CENTERS COMING IN AI COMING IN, AND RIGHT AT THE CENTER WHAT ALL THAT NEEDS TO OPERATE IS1 minute, 34 seconds
ENERGY WE NEED THIS COUNTRY TO BE ENERGY-INDEPENDENT WE NEED TO BRING, PRICES DOWN, AND IF WE WANT TO BRING INDUSTRY BACK, AND BE THE CAPITAL IN1 minute, 41 seconds
THE HUB FOR DATA CENTERS, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO GET NUCLEAR FUSION TO WORK. NOW LOOK.1 minute, 49 seconds
FOR 20 YEARS, WE BOXED BOUT SOLAR PANELS WINDMILLS FROM CHINA THOSE POLICIES FAILED1 minute, 57 seconds
WHAT TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS TRYING TO DO IS REAL ENERGY, WHETHER OIL, GAS ALL ABOVE2 minutes, 4 seconds
INCLUDING NUCLEAR WHAT WE'VE2 minutes, 6 seconds
BEEN OUT DOING SCOURED THE WORLD THE GLOBE IS TO FIND BEST SCIENTISTS TOP PEOPLE BEST COMPANY WE WANT TO DO2 minutes, 14 seconds
NUCLEAR FUSION BECAUSE NUCLEAR FUSION DISCOVERED SOME 75 YEARS AGO, NUCLEAR FUSION IS2 minutes, 20 seconds
THE HOLY GRAIL, THE SCIENCE THERE IS THE COMPANY MERGING2 minutes, 28 seconds
WITH VERY BEST PEOPLE IN AMERICA, 1600 PATENTS, 4002 minutes, 36 seconds
SCIENTISTS, BUNCH -- AWARD-WINNING SCIENTISTS READY TO BUILD WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR 25 YEARS WITH PRIVATE FUNDING, THE CHUCK2 minutes, 44 seconds
SCHWAB FAMILY ONE OF THE ORIGINAL INVESTORS OTHERS LIKE GOOGLE, OTHERS HAVE PUT MONEY, INTO THIS COMPANY.2 minutes, 52 seconds
THEY WERE LOOKING TO GO PUBLIC AND WHAT WE DID WE SAID LOOK.2 minutes, 57 seconds
WE ARE TECHNOLOGY YOUR A TECHNOLOGY COMPANY BUILD SYNERGIES TOGETHER, AND LET'S GO OUT AND BUILD THE WORLD'S FIRST NUCLEAR FUSION PROJECT.3 minutes, 7 seconds
THIS IS, THIS PROJECT IS READY TO GO, THAT IS WHAT THEY LACKED THEY'VE DONE SCIENCE3 minutes, 14 seconds
BUILT FIVE MODELS OF IT READY POOEB BUILT THE KEY WE HAVE TO START DOING SOMETHING IN THIS COUNTRY THAT MATTERS THAT IS WHAT TRUMP MEDIA IS ALL ABOUT3 minutes, 22 seconds
SO WE'VE LOOKED FOR THE CROWN JEWEL WE FOUND CROWN JEWEL A3 minutes, 29 seconds
TREMENDOUS BALANCE SHEET SINCE WE WENT PUBLIC SCHWAB AND OTHERS WE CAN MERGE THIS3 minutes, 37 seconds
SEWING GET OUT BILLED THE WORLD'S FIRST NUCLEAR FUSION PLANT COUNTRY IS GOING TO RUN OUT OF ENERGY IF WE DON'T DO3 minutes, 45 seconds
SOMETHING. MARIA: ARE YOU EXPECTING TRUMP MEDIA TECHNOLOGY TO RELY ON NUCLEAR ENERGY AND BE INDEPENDENT IN TERMS OF USING NOW YOUR OWN ENERGY FROM NUCLEAR FUSION?3 minutes, 54 seconds
>> WELL WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS THE SIZE AND SCOPE OF PLANTS THE INITIAL PLANT 50 MEGAWATT A LOT OF PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT4 minutes, 2 seconds
SMALLER PLANTS BUT TECHNOLOGY THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT WE'VE INVESTED IN, HE IS ACTUALLY WILL BUILD POWER PLANTS THAT ARE AT SCALE AT4 minutes, 10 seconds
SIZE SO ANYWHERE FROM 350 TO 500 MEGAWATTS, NOT ONLY THAT, MARIA, YOU CAN PUT NUCLEAR4 minutes, 17 seconds
POWER IF DONE CORRECTLY, REMEMBER IN PAST NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS COSTS RAN OUT WENT OUT4 minutes, 25 seconds
OF CONTROL, NUCLEAR FUSION HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE REALLY IS HOLY GRAIL LIKE THE SUN, BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN BEEN ABLE TO HARNESS THAT YET JUST HASN'T4 minutes, 33 seconds
THE TECHNOLOGY THE SCIENCE BUT THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, TAE AND ALL THE OTHER NUCLEAR COMPANIES OUT THERE, AROUND THE WORLD.4 minutes, 41 seconds
THIS IS THE ONE THAT WON'T RELY ON RARE-EARTH ELEMENTS WON'T HAVE TO RELY ON MAGNETS4 minutes, 49 seconds
ONLY COMPANY ACTUALLY BUILT SOMETHING WE WERE MOST INCREASED WITH NOT JUST ALL SCIENTISTS ALL ENGINEERS, THAT COULD WORK WITH PRIVATE4 minutes, 56 seconds
FUNDING, ALL PRIVATE FUNDING I MUST SAY, AND NOW WHAT THEY ARE LOOKING TO DO NEED A WAY TO ACCESS PUBLIC MARKETS, WE5 minutes, 4 seconds
PROVIDE THAT OPPORTUNITY, FOR THEM TO ACCESS THE PUBLIC MARKETS, AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT THIS COMPANY I THINK WHEN YOU5 minutes, 12 seconds
LOOK AROUND THE COUNTRY, LOOK AROUND THE WORLD, THIS IS THE WORLD'S PREMIER NEURONING FOOKS COMPANY WITHOUT5 minutes, 20 seconds
QUESTION, WITH WE TALK AT TRUMP MEDIA TECHNOLOGY GROUPS WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO ACQUIRE CROWN JEWEL ASSETS, THIS IS A5 minutes, 27 seconds
CROWN JEWEL ASSET COULD CHANGE THE WORLD. MARIA: UPON CLOSING SHAREHOLDERS OF EACH COMPANY WILL OWN APPROXIMATELY 50% OF5 minutes, 36 seconds
THE COMBINED COMPANY ON FULLY DILUTED EQUITY BEHAVES YOU ARE5 minutes, 44 seconds
CO-CEO, COULD CEOS NEVER5 minutes, 46 seconds
WORKED .5 minutes, 46 seconds
>> NOT TRUE I THINK ORACLE WORKED A PRETTY LONG TIME, SO THIS IS THE PERFECT SET UP FOR5 minutes, 55 seconds
IT, THE DOCTOR REALLY THE GENIUS BEHIND ALL OF THIS, HE WILL STAY RUNNING AND WORKING WITH ALL SCIENTISTS.6 minutes, 3 seconds
I WILL STAY WITH ALL TRUMP ASSETS AND THEN WE WILL HELP OUT WHERE WE CAN THIS IS GOING TO NEED PICK A SITE, WE ARE6 minutes, 11 seconds
GOING TO HAVE TO PICK A STATE WORK WITH STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENTS, I ALSO FEEL LIKE THERE IS A PLACE A ROLL FOR6 minutes, 18 seconds
OUR NATIONAL DEFENSE IN THIS THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE -- YOU KNOW I THINK WE HAVE FALLEN BEHIND AS A COUNTRY, BECAUSE WE FOCUSED TOO MUCH ON WINDMILLS.6 minutes, 28 seconds
WE HAVEN'T SEEN DONE ENOUGH IN NUCLEAR.6 minutes, 30 seconds
YOU SEE THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION NOW REALLY TRYING TO GET US FOCUSED BACK ON THAT. >> YEAH. .6 minutes, 35 seconds
>> SO YOU KNOW IT IS IMPORTANT I THINK FOR -- WE WILL PLAY AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN HELPING6 minutes, 42 seconds
GETTING THIS SIGHTED FIND A SITE, PICK THE STATE GET THE CONSTRUCTION UNDERWAY, IN 2026.6 minutes, 51 seconds
NOBODY ELSE CAN REALLY SAY THAT. MARIA: SO ITSELF IT FAIR TO SAY THAT THE PRIORITY AT TRUMP MEDIA INTELLIGENT NOW WILL BE ENERGY NOT SOCIAL MEDIA?7 minutes, 1 second
>> WELL, EVERYTHING IS IMPORTANT, BUT WE SOLVED SOCIAL MEDIA RIGHT WE BUILT THE STRATEGIC PLATFORM SOCIAL7 minutes, 10 seconds
MEDIA PLATFORM GLOBAL WORKS WE DON'T GO DOWN AMAZING TECHNOLOGY WHAT THIS REALLY IS, MARIA, IS A SECONDARY7 minutes, 18 seconds
COMPANY AND LOOK LIKE RIGHT NOW LOOK IT IS A MAJOR PROJECT THAT HAS TO BE UNDERTAKEN, THE GOOD THING IS, IS THAT WE HAVE7 minutes, 26 seconds
THE CAPITAL, TO GO BUILD THIS FIRST REACTOR, SO THIS ISN'T LIKE SOME GOING BEG GOVERNMENT FOR MONEY OR GOING TO GO OUT DO ADDITIONAL PIPES.7 minutes, 37 seconds
WE HAVE ENOUGH CAPITAL RIGHT NOW TO BUILD THIS PROJECT OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS. >> OKAY.7 minutes, 41 seconds
>> THAT IS WHAT WE REALLY DID WE SET THIS COMPANY UP FOR SUCCESS, WITH A BIG BALANCE SHEET, AND NOW READY TO GO DO7 minutes, 50 seconds
SOMETHING BIG, WHAT IS THERE IS NOTHING BIGGER, AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL IN THIS COUNTRY7 minutes, 56 seconds
RIGHT NOW NOTHING MORE IMPORTANT.8 minutes
-- THAN FIXING THE ENERGY CRISIS EVERY DAY ON YOUR SHOW.8 minutes, 3 seconds
MARIA: FOR SURE, WE ARE GOING TO BE FOLLOWING THIS, AS YOU -- CONTINUE PUTTING THESE TWO COMPANIES TOGETHER.8 minutes, 11 seconds
THE STOCK OBVIOUSLY, REACTING THIS MORNING HIGHER BUT I GOT TO GET YOUR TAKE ON ANOTHER ISSUE WHILE WE'VE YOU NEWLY CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS REVEAL8 minutes, 19 seconds
SPENT OF JOE BIDEN'SING WEAPONIZATION OF8 minutes, 22 seconds
GOVERNMENT EMAILS BY JAT JUDICIARY CHAIRMAN CHUCK GRASSLEY SHOW IN 2022 FBI DID NOT BELIEVER IT HAD PROBABLE CAUSE TO RAID PRESIDENT8 minutes, 30 seconds
TRUMP'S MAR-A-LAGO HOME GID SO, ANYWAY, BECAUSE OF SEVERE PRESSURE FROM THE BIDEN JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, THE LAST TIME WE SPOKE YOU QUESTIONED8 minutes, 38 seconds
THAT RAID ON MAR-A-LAGO YOU ARE RIGHT QUESTIONING THAT RAID EVERY TIME I SPOKE WITH YOU, EVER SINCE 2022, WHAT IS YOUR REACTION TO THIS NEW8 minutes, 46 seconds
INFORMATION THAT IN FACT FBI TOLD THE LEADERSHIPED LEADERSHIP WE DON'T HAVE PROBABLE CAUSE BUT THEY8 minutes, 54 seconds
PUSHING MINIMUM TO DO IT ANYWAY DAMNING EVIDENCE I'M GLAD KASH PATEL ATTORNEY GENERAL BONDI BRINGING THIS9 minutes, 1 second
OUT I HAVE BEEN SIG FOR MEDICINES I THINK SINCE THEY FIRD RAIDED MAR-A-LAGO. MARIA: YES, YOU HAVE.9 minutes, 8 seconds
>> THEY WERE LOOKING FOR DOCUMENT PRESIDENT TRUMP DECLASSIFIED THAT I WROTE WITH OUR COMMITTEE, THAT STAYED HIDDEN, THESE CRIMINALS THAT9 minutes, 16 seconds
DID THIS TO MAR-A-LAGO TO THE PRESIDENT THAT DID THIS TO -- TO MELANIA TRUMP, THEY WERE9 minutes, 23 seconds
LOOKING FOR A DOCUMENT THAT WAS ACTUALLY JUST SITTING AT CREATE WAS DECLASSIFIED BY9 minutes, 31 seconds
PRESIDENT TRUMP YOU SEE THAT NOW DOCUMENT WAS THERE ISN'T THEY BASICALLY ACCUSED OF PRESIDENT TRUMP OF STEALING A DOCUMENT TAKING THERE IT THAT9 minutes, 40 seconds
HE HAD DECLASSIFIED THE YOU BEEN BUREAUCRATS WHEN HE LEFT OFFICE LEFT THAT LOCKING IN THE CIA FOR FOUR YEARS WASN'T9 minutes, 47 seconds
UNTIL PRESIDENT TRUMP GOT BACK THE REPUBLICANS IN THE HOURS RELEASED ITP TRUMP DECLASSIFIED IT NOW THAT9 minutes, 53 seconds
INFORMATION IS OUT WHAT DO WE FIND OUT?9 minutes, 58 seconds
THESE FOOLS AT DOJ FBI WEAPONIZED PROCESS WENT AGAINST PRESIDENT TO DO UP PRUDENTED ACT OF RAID MAR-A-LAGO RAID A SITTING OR10 minutes, 5 seconds
FORMER PRESIDENT'S HOME, THAT WAS DONE ON FALSE PRETENS, PRESIDENT TRUMP NEVER HAD THOSE DOCUMENTS, WHY?10 minutes, 13 seconds
BECAUSE WE DON'T BREAK THE LAW.10 minutes, 15 seconds
IT IS AMAZING THAT HO DID BREAK LAW THE CRIMINALS THAT RAN THAT INVESTIGATION THE TOP PEOPLE IN THE BIDEN10 minutes, 23 seconds
ADMINISTRATION, AT THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE WHAT THEY DID WAS CRIMINAL NEED TO BE PROSECUTED FOR IT NOW WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IS EVIDENCE THAT I TOLD YOU, HAD10 minutes, 31 seconds
TO BE THERE, I KNEW THEY WERE LOOKING FOR THESE DOCUMENTS, NOW WE HAVE THE EVIDENCE.10 minutes, 35 seconds
>> YOU DO, BY THE WAY, I HAVE THE DIFFICULTIES RIGHT HERE, IN FRONT OF ME.10 minutes, 40 seconds
AND THAT IS YOUR REPORT ON THE RUSSIA COLLUSION LIE THAT MADE-UP STORY DAMNING THIS10 minutes, 47 seconds
REPORT IS DAMNING BECAUSE IT OUT LINES A EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID THE A SMEARS AGAINST10 minutes, 55 seconds
PRESIDENT TRUMP FOR 10-YEAR CONSPIRATORS DEVIN WE ARE WATCHING THIS MERGER THE COMBINATION OF TAE,Sync to video time